[Podcast] Don’t Let Pride Lead You Astray

Matt Frank has been a SMART facilitator for over seven years.  His uses his experience and LGBTQ+ perspective to shape the tools and conversations to be most effective for his meeting participants. 

In this podcast, Matt talks about:

  • How pride can be a problem emotion
  • SMART discourages using labels
  • Practicing recovery actively
  • Focusing on behavior versus identity
  • The difference between self-esteem and self-acceptance
  • Using Motivational Interviewing in his Sexual Maladaptive Behavior meeting
  • What people need is a good listening to
  • The pros and cons of online versus in-person meetings
  • Not letting pride lead you astray
  • Appreciating the small things in life

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